tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post3903006140653162696..comments2024-03-18T09:09:59.625-04:00Comments on Janet Reid, Literary Agent: More on referralsJanet Reidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00615380335938685231noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-17556812659488815482014-12-15T19:42:36.413-05:002014-12-15T19:42:36.413-05:00Gossamer loves my work, and he was named an editor...Gossamer loves my work, and he was named an editor by no less than Janet Reid. That's a referral and/or a recommendation. Right???DLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08768285199864217885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-22328059493966948702014-12-14T18:18:25.866-05:002014-12-14T18:18:25.866-05:00How's this for a non-referral referral? I cont...How's this for a non-referral referral? I contacted two of my blurber's agents, telling them their clients blurbed my book and would they like to see my first novel? Worked well...they answered quickly requesting the ms...but long story short, rejected it very nicely. Well, I tried. Always enjoy your take on things, Janet.Kylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08627312129304745663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-24633763561401881312014-12-14T03:37:15.869-05:002014-12-14T03:37:15.869-05:00#7 Reminds me of that person who said they would p...#7 Reminds me of that person who said they would pay big money to hire you. Brazen business practice. BBP<br /><br />Or maybe they think it's like hitting the share button on FB.<br /><br />I like reading those posts that seem to sneak out before the SDT.<br /><br />@Colin, no surpise on my part<br /><br />On a public forum, an artist I did not know wrote to me that they couldn't wait to come to my atelier, pick my brain - learn the ins and outs of how to make it as a painter in Italy. <br /><br />Virtual elbow rubbing is not a referral. Not even following a blog is a referral. <br />angie Brooksby-Arcangiolihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000615140577512304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-81817899004631389182014-12-13T22:42:41.810-05:002014-12-13T22:42:41.810-05:00Once again, another informative post. I hadn't...Once again, another informative post. I hadn't realised there were so many types of referrals!<br /><br />Mind you, I couldn't imagine asking an author who their agent was and then sending it as a 'recommendation'. AJ Blythehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529233142099749005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-14850764793213039492014-12-13T19:24:14.061-05:002014-12-13T19:24:14.061-05:00Sure! Why not?Sure! Why not?John "Ol' Chumbucket" Baurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120550659339089195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-84376264497792626122014-12-13T18:50:49.900-05:002014-12-13T18:50:49.900-05:00My brother and I played together, so that sort-of ...My brother and I played together, so that sort-of counts, doesn't it?<br /><br />Do I still get the referral? :DColin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-82284713041546169552014-12-13T18:46:07.045-05:002014-12-13T18:46:07.045-05:00You should have seen how fast my head swiveled whe...You should have seen how fast my head swiveled when I saw opened up the blog and re-read this post after BAKING ALL DAY. I was like, wow, I really WAS asleep this morning. <br /><br />Then I saw your comment about "if you're confused...," <br /><br />Whew. You had me worried.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-46488496212162571242014-12-13T17:01:41.034-05:002014-12-13T17:01:41.034-05:00ColinSMith – It only counts if you performed on st...ColinSMith – It only counts if you performed on stage with your brother. Technically, even that doesn't count. If you stick by the rules (film appearance) then I'm not on the scale either. But I acted with and was directed by my wife in amateur theater, she was a teenage walk-on in the TV series "Square Pegs" (she was Sarah Jessica Parker's standin) and of course Parker was in Footloose with Kevin Bacon. So I'm countin' it. And if you and your brother so much as sang together in the back of the car on a family vacation, I'd count that too.!John "Ol' Chumbucket" Baurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120550659339089195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-86785526413084994342014-12-13T14:35:36.183-05:002014-12-13T14:35:36.183-05:00Thanks for the #7 clarification. Maybe I'm jus...Thanks for the #7 clarification. Maybe I'm just cranky from hearing so many Christmas carols today, but this borders on the dishonest for me. It is one thing to say "I'm querying you because you represent Jeff Somers and I love his books," but it is quite another to get an agent's name from an author and call it a "referral." It would make me question both a person's honesty and their savvy.Amy Schaeferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17263719891092841767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-61207589141321249562014-12-13T13:15:01.972-05:002014-12-13T13:15:01.972-05:00John: It seems I'm a 3 too. My brother shared ...John: It seems I'm a 3 too. My brother shared a stage with James McAvoy in an amateur production some years ago. James McAvoy was in "X-Men: First Class" with Kevin Bacon.<br /><br />Does that count as a referral? ;DColin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-12263072459537153632014-12-13T13:10:03.574-05:002014-12-13T13:10:03.574-05:00Ahh! So it's a Kevin Bacon Kind of thing – Six...Ahh! So it's a Kevin Bacon Kind of thing – Six Degrees of the Sales Transaction. Got it. (Fun fact, on the Kevin Bacon scale, I'm a three.)John "Ol' Chumbucket" Baurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120550659339089195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-79872620340739001702014-12-13T13:09:45.670-05:002014-12-13T13:09:45.670-05:00Janet: Understood--thanks. And yes, I am surprised...Janet: Understood--thanks. And yes, I am surprised. I honestly think better of those who want to make a living out of words. They ought to know what a referral is. *sigh*<br /><br />"I'll sort it out on this end." *GULP* 8-OColin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-66884444518873849522014-12-13T12:25:56.020-05:002014-12-13T12:25:56.020-05:00Carolynn, hee!
Janet, thank you once again. (But...Carolynn, hee!<br /><br />Janet, thank you once again. (But if JF is only taking by referral right now, why'd she need that "don't query until after January 15" post ... ?) I may need to re-read.<br /><br />Oh. Wait, no. I need to be querying! Others. :)DLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08768285199864217885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-43507123749715441722014-12-13T12:12:21.882-05:002014-12-13T12:12:21.882-05:00Just a note to the Shark--
Thank you for being so...Just a note to the Shark--<br /><br />Thank you for being so generous with sharing your process. Many people clam up about stuff like this, as if sharing their knowledge were akin to cutting off their Samsonite hair. That's not to say we writers are automatically entitled to the wisdom you've earned over the years, but we sure are better off for it.<br /><br />Thank you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00331026594971237758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-62408289502742144862014-12-13T12:04:11.690-05:002014-12-13T12:04:11.690-05:00Colin, I'm using that as an example. You'd...Colin, I'm using that as an example. You'd be surprised how many query writers think of that kind of scenario as a referral. I generally don't bother my clients about these kinds of things. They have standing instructions: if anyone asks who your agent is, tell them. I'll sort it out on this end. (That way, they're never in the position of being rude/cold to a potential reader)Janet Reidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00615380335938685231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-48472302496068831312014-12-13T11:31:39.403-05:002014-12-13T11:31:39.403-05:00#7 doesn't sound at all to me like a referral....#7 doesn't sound at all to me like a referral. Wouldn't this be like me emailing Patrick Lee and saying "Wow, RUNNER is so awesome, your agent must have great taste--who is she?", and when Patrick responds, "My agent is Her Most Awesomeness Janet "the Shark" Reid, QOTKU," I send you my query saying the incomparable Patrick Lee himself referred me? Patrick didn't refer me, he just answered my question. And I think you've said in the past, if you get a query like that, you call/email Mr. Lee and say, "Do you know this guy? Have your read his work?" And when he says, "No", that's the end of that query.<br /><br />Am I wrong, or misunderstanding #7? If not, wouldn't this be on a list of "sure-fire ways to waste my time and get your email address blocked"?Colin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-44415608658522107232014-12-13T10:45:33.192-05:002014-12-13T10:45:33.192-05:00Hah! Hadn't encountered the Shark Delay Team r...Hah! Hadn't encountered the Shark Delay Team response before. And I thought I'd read all of your archives. <br /><br />I'm glad donnaeverhart commented. I thought it was just me not being intelligent yet for the day. Yes, it makes much more sense now, Janet. Thanks. <br /><br />Jennifer R, your comment is stirring up a lovely scene in my brain this morning. Lisa Bodenheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17809067722921953857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-58749351292648249102014-12-13T10:31:51.527-05:002014-12-13T10:31:51.527-05:00I feel like you missed one of those few, genuinely...I feel like you missed one of those few, genuinely legitimate opportunities to unpack the "don't you know who I am?" baggage ;)Jennifer R. Donohuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363886899308588391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-75239437546833409682014-12-13T08:52:39.075-05:002014-12-13T08:52:39.075-05:00And God said, "thou shalt not mess with thy n...And God said, "thou shalt not mess with thy numbering system."<br />11 is now 1A<br /><br />Yes Janet, that was thunder you heard. Carolynnwith2Nshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394998702410764388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-6197467259331267502014-12-13T08:40:46.582-05:002014-12-13T08:40:46.582-05:0011. The clouds parted, heavenly light shone upon t...11. The clouds parted, heavenly light shone upon the earth and God said, “Thou shalt read Carolynn’s manuscript or I shall shower the earth with plagues, storms and republicans.”<br />That was last year. See, I told you so.<br />God<br />PS <br />Just remember, I hold the copyright for the Ten Commandments. You do not want to get sued by me.<br />Carolynnwith2Nshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394998702410764388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-18089422945779228762014-12-13T08:37:09.090-05:002014-12-13T08:37:09.090-05:00Well, if you're confused, I think other people...Well, if you're confused, I think other people will be too, so I renumbered AND added a bit more explanation.<br /><br />Thanks for the heads up this wasn't as clear as I wanted it to be.Janet Reidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00615380335938685231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-40709069996876036402014-12-13T08:15:47.448-05:002014-12-13T08:15:47.448-05:00Maybe it's early and I need more coffee, but, ...Maybe it's early and I need more coffee, but, I'm confused by your hierarchy. Are you saying #10 would be read the least fastest or the fastest? I'm reading this list as working from the least likely up to most likely. And if this is true, I'm ASTOUNDED you'd read 10 last! <br /><br />I'm off to bake Christmas cookies with Mom now. Have a great day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com