tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post3164899040552917000..comments2024-03-18T09:09:59.625-04:00Comments on Janet Reid, Literary Agent: Either dead or fled, is it ok to move ahead?Janet Reidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00615380335938685231noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-90475390616270704522017-09-27T21:07:52.206-04:002017-09-27T21:07:52.206-04:00Ginger: Hey, if I had the name of Shakespeare'...<b>Ginger</b>: Hey, if I had the name of Shakespeare's agent, I'd query him! :)Colin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-78077324910555847102017-09-27T21:00:33.077-04:002017-09-27T21:00:33.077-04:00Great question, OP. I once queried someone who was...Great question, OP. I once queried someone who was on maternity leave, with an ambiguous return date. And, I've also queried agents who had passed away. Twice. I swear I didn't have anything to do with it!Gingermollymarilynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15684318210445109786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-34620564267558325252017-09-27T20:40:44.235-04:002017-09-27T20:40:44.235-04:00@Casey - I'm good.
> That said, I wonder h...@Casey - I'm good.<br /><br />> That said, I wonder how many agents feel the same way about<br />> read receipts as I do...<br /><br />I never thought about it that way. It's good to see other points of view. Great discussion!<br /><br />- Greg<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520938664643938416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-39214252244317674562017-09-27T20:25:53.031-04:002017-09-27T20:25:53.031-04:00No offense intended, Greg, and I hope you didn'...No offense intended, <b>Greg</b>, and I hope you didn't take my comments that way. I was strictly commenting on the technological limitations of the technology.<br /><br />That said, I wonder how many agents feel the same way about read receipts as I do. It could easily be taken as "checking up" on them, especially if their software prompts them to send the acknowledgement every time they open the email.<br /><br />Arguments both ways. Hmm. I haven't been in the business long enough to know how queries were done pre-email; was it common to send them as registered mail? Anybody know?Casey Karphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592351859886981726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-28963619377467076702017-09-27T18:00:30.220-04:002017-09-27T18:00:30.220-04:00Greg? Greg who? There's no Greg here... ;)Greg? Greg who? There's no Greg here... ;)Colin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-41179345340304821722017-09-27T17:45:16.767-04:002017-09-27T17:45:16.767-04:00@Lennon and @Casey - I've sent my share of ema...@Lennon and @Casey - I've sent my share of emails with delivery receipt and return receipt requested. I don't flag everything that way, but agent queries, invoices, and such - yeah, I'll request both a delivery receipt and read receipt. That's not me trying to spy on anyone, it's me requesting the courtesy to at least acknowledge receipt of my message.<br /><br />OTOH, I get hundreds of spam emails every day. Many are in Chinese. Don't ask me why I get spammed with Chinese emails, I just do. And some of those are flagged with a read-receipt. Lots of English ones too - I'm not trying to discriminate against the Chinese here, I just don't know how to speak or read Chinese.<br /><br />Anyway, I never send a read receipt for spams because I don't want to give spammers any feedback that I exist.<br /><br />- GregAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520938664643938416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-51894475209362649242017-09-27T17:45:09.236-04:002017-09-27T17:45:09.236-04:00I jest reelized that at 7:48 I speled role wronge....I jest reelized that at 7:48 I speled role wronge. It shoold have ben roll, as in roll me over in the clover, or rolls and butter or let's roll.<br />It's really unnessary when writers correctitude them selves here...I mean...as if anybody reely cares. <br />Ok I are done and feeling stupid.<br />Carolynnwith2Nshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394998702410764388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-5453739228959671642017-09-27T15:45:22.778-04:002017-09-27T15:45:22.778-04:00OT: I just wanted to thank you for referring us to...OT: I just wanted to thank you for referring us to Ben LeRoy's crit service. Very sharp fellow and he makes excellent recommendations.<br /><br />I don't know how much oeuvre du dreck he can stand, but I would encourage others here to bombard him with their material. The changes he suggested are very easy to implement. So I will give my WIP (thought until now to be ready) another read-through before submitting it to the fiery breath of editorial dragons.<br /><br />If Ben is crapped out or anyone wants a free opinion (you get what you pay for) you are welcome to send your masterpiece to me. Just send it in machine readable form (DOC or TXT format). If it is 300,000 words long that is OK, but pencil is too hard to read. I have vision problems. Ditto if you wrote it with lemon juice or disappearing ink. If there is anyting unusual about it, viz. if it intentionally makes no sense (i.e., is anarchic fiction) or is designed to appeal to some really esoteric market (200 year old transvestites from subterranean Antarctic caves), please advise.<br />Steve Stubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13421775912951050610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-38026603915291593242017-09-27T13:32:56.158-04:002017-09-27T13:32:56.158-04:00It's not just you, Lennon. I tend to give tho...It's not just you, <b>Lennon</b>. I tend to give those emails the ol' hairy eyeball too. As a general rule, it's nobody's business but my own if and when I read my mail.Casey Karphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592351859886981726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-214362024991906952017-09-27T13:26:10.733-04:002017-09-27T13:26:10.733-04:00OK, I realize I might be the odd one out here, but...OK, I realize I might be the odd one out here, but - is anyone else weirded out by those receipts? Clearly the people using them here have legit reasons to do so and have no nefarious reasons behind it. <br /><br />Whenever I get one, though, I give that email a hard stare. I usually do click 'yes' because otherwise the sender will think I don't care, but it feels like that person is monitoring my business.<br /><br />No? No one else? I'll just see myself out here...Lennon Farishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570629350169504234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-80503277701729894652017-09-27T11:41:57.690-04:002017-09-27T11:41:57.690-04:00I love the title of this post.
Gigi, Susan, et al...I love the title of this post.<br /><br /><b>Gigi</b>, <b>Susan</b>, et al.: As with read receipt, there are problems with all mail tracking services. Some of them, for example, embed a small graphic in the email. When the recipient's email program tries to download the graphic, the service knows the message has been opened. Aside from the fact that "opened" doesn't mean "read," not all email programs support graphics. And some let you turn off those trackers so as not to alert advertisers that you've seen their messages.<br /><br />So, regardless of what service you use, as <b>Greg</b> said, if you get an "It's been opened," message, that's great, but the absence of a message doesn't mean the agent hasn't seen your query.Casey Karphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10592351859886981726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-43371446173056477762017-09-27T10:52:25.899-04:002017-09-27T10:52:25.899-04:00@Kitty - I use a tool called Streak, which lets yo...@Kitty - I use a tool called Streak, which lets you track a certain number of emails free each month. I use it for emails I need to know arrived (including queries) and it helps me keep my anxiety about spam folders in check.<br /><br />Janet - thank you so much. This is helpful.Gigihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09199129765216390246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-65201276685756456642017-09-27T09:39:07.278-04:002017-09-27T09:39:07.278-04:00Thanks, Greg and Susan!
2Ns: No flies on me... ;)...Thanks, <b>Greg</b> and <b>Susan</b>!<br /><br /><b>2Ns</b>: No flies on me... ;)Colin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-79771753711372508652017-09-27T09:33:10.458-04:002017-09-27T09:33:10.458-04:00Colin Hahahaha... always comforting to know how we...<b>Colin</b> Hahahaha... always comforting to know how well you get the bottom of things.Carolynnwith2Nshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394998702410764388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-72329318688477166072017-09-27T09:23:14.276-04:002017-09-27T09:23:14.276-04:00Kitty and Colin: There's a third-party app cal...Kitty and Colin: There's a third-party app called Yesware that you can install on your gmail that tracks when emails are opened/opened and unanswered. I used it for my business for a while, but then it drove me nutso (I'm a quick responder to emails; it was a lesson in patience to realize others are not). I can see something like this helping with tracking NORMANS and giving authors closure on that front, but I'd warn to be careful not to fall down that rabbit hole of obsessively tracking your queries.Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05332570278984058081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-24965798859810133492017-09-27T09:19:30.336-04:002017-09-27T09:19:30.336-04:00@Colin and all - you can request a read-receipt, b...@Colin and all - you can request a read-receipt, but that doesn't mean you'll get one. The recipient has to send one and (1) the recipient may not choose to send one, or (2) somewhere along the path from you, the sender, through your outgoing spam filter, into the recipient spam filter, to the recipient's email server and to the recipient's email client, that request for a read-receipt could fall out the bottom of a leaky bitbucket and the recipient might never see it.<br /><br />Which means, when you request a read receipt and one comes back, you know your recipient opened the email. But if nothing comes back you don't know.<br /><br />- GregAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02520938664643938416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-3111239196957800542017-09-27T08:11:58.894-04:002017-09-27T08:11:58.894-04:00I am very close to the query train. Can I alert al...I am very close to the query train. Can I alert all the agents on my list that they may not change agencies or die until I have finished this process? Is that too much to ask? I mean we are already dealing with a moving target. It would help if the agents themselves wouldn't physically move. <br /><br />Ah well...*orders new axis for rodent wheel*E.M. Goldsmithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18387494005655553037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-25368349928299387482017-09-27T08:09:37.586-04:002017-09-27T08:09:37.586-04:00Kitty - where is this feature on Gmail? I've b...Kitty - where is this feature on Gmail? I've been looking for it. Thanks!Kylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08627312129304745663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-87689047200823796472017-09-27T08:07:41.160-04:002017-09-27T08:07:41.160-04:00Once, as in one. Almost got it out there.Once, as in one. Almost got it out there.Lennon Farishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570629350169504234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-19782662603712011452017-09-27T08:06:04.557-04:002017-09-27T08:06:04.557-04:00"For other agencies, query as though you hadn..."For other agencies, query as though you hadn't queried before. You do NOT need to mention you queried previously."<br /><br />Are you *usually* supposed to mention it, if you've already queried another agent at that same agency? (Assuming of course they allow this, and you've already received a rejection from Agent#1). Can't tell if this advice is an exception to the norm for this once circumstance, or if this is just a general rule in publishing. Lennon Farishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570629350169504234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-4173285131563806802017-09-27T07:51:23.440-04:002017-09-27T07:51:23.440-04:002Ns: I'm sure they were flushed with excitemen...<b>2Ns</b>: I'm sure they were flushed with excitement to receive them... :DColin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-67673588424689387532017-09-27T07:48:38.437-04:002017-09-27T07:48:38.437-04:00Hey Colin my pages that got read at the last Kale ...Hey <b>Colin</b> my pages that got read at the last Kale Leaf séance came on a role of one-thousand sheets.Carolynnwith2Nshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18394998702410764388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-62882545555562909732017-09-27T07:47:07.627-04:002017-09-27T07:47:07.627-04:00Thanks, Colin! Gmail does have that feature.Thanks, <b>Colin</b>! Gmail does have that feature.Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09868642232827730189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-10833528694765903812017-09-27T07:40:46.231-04:002017-09-27T07:40:46.231-04:00Good question, Opie! All the best in the trenches....Good question, <b>Opie</b>! All the best in the trenches. :)<br /><br /><b>Kitty</b>: Outlook lets you request a "read receipt" (under Options-Tracking). It's possible gmail has a similar option somewhere.<br /><br />At Kale Leaf Literary Agency on Carkoon, they hold a special séance for their deceased agents during which they read queries. Some have been known to request pages...Colin Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292997431935215499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17040756.post-33667821549306209562017-09-27T07:29:49.429-04:002017-09-27T07:29:49.429-04:00I've got nothing to add, but no comments is gi...I've got nothing to add, but no comments is giving me the heebie jeebies! When agents change agencies, I assume they take their clients. Do they take their queries and requested pages too?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03581361783795436259noreply@blogger.com